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Post by Tembest on Jan 22, 2007 16:13:21 GMT -5
I myself hate quite many genres after all.. yet i neva judge a song before i've heard it! experience has just told me that i rly don't like EG. any metal song at all. so even i say i hate metal it doesn't mean i couldn't check out one of those songs.. like i did, when Vaju told me to listen to sumtin, i downloaded 2 songs, which in my opinion sucked, but at least i tried it!
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Post by Ondskan on Jan 22, 2007 21:37:33 GMT -5
The thing is that YOU felt special, which you WANT to feel, when YOU are a fan of a less known band. Because you are one of the FEW that loves the band...and that lets you feel special somehow. And once the band has became big and every1 knows them and they got millions of fans, you feel like you're a worthless fan. 1 fan of the millions. I for one like to listen to bands that not so many ppl has heard about...or they've heard of it but rly dont like it but it's not just because of that...somehow, it tends that their music just HITS me. I love the way they make their music. UNIQUE music. Because less known bands aren't famous because they make music however they want to make it, not how the mainstream wants them to make it. And this is just generalizing of course... So, MOST of the time when I listen to those big bands playing on radio or wherever, I might like it but not that much. It has turned out, most of the time, that it just doesn't hit me and that's not because of their status...it's because of their music. Few examples...AC/DC. I love their stuff from 70's when they weren't that famous yet. They had their best material back then and after back in black album they hardly made anything good. It just keeps repeating. Guns N' Roses. All the stuff they made before AFD and before it, when they weren't big yet, it was great cause they did what they wanted to do and after AFD axl's mind snapped and they made some crappy use for illusion non-ball shit. All the same goes with Nirvana, Foo Fighters, Neil Young, qotsa, korn, rhcp, rolling stones etc etc....most of those bands got their best stuff from the beginning. Eventhough they're big now, I do like them but only the good stuff they made. The latter stuff might have something nice but not enough that I'd buy their CD. so im trying to say.. I love music that is unique...I love music where the artist do what he wants to do and does it with his emotions, focusing on the music. I love music with balls, with courage. Music they dare to do without giving a fuck what others think of them. I love music that makes you THINK about every word and note in the song. So that definition hardly applies to the big bands on MTV and mainstream you see nowadays...I'd be glad if you could name one though and I'll give it a shot. And no, i dont deny big bands songs cos theyre big bands. If that was you were saying.
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Post by Tembest on Jan 23, 2007 2:46:44 GMT -5
i agree here wit onds.. BUT not all commercialised bands/artists have their music made rdy! let's say eg. Tupac (2 Pac) that was one of the most famous rappers n still is, has always made his own kinda music, he always did what he wanted n his producers n recordin companies had to go wit it! then eg. P. Diddy (Puff Daddy) that's got a billion dollars property has neva done anythin himself. he gets his lyrics written rdy, so the beats n mixes.. all he has to do is show his face n look like singin :/
i like both of their music.. BUT there's still a huge difference between em! Tupac is sumtin i highly look up to, i have all of his cd's n such. when it comes to P. Diddy, i would neva buy his cd. i neva respected any of "his" work, "his" music just happens to b ok.
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Post by Ondskan on Jan 23, 2007 7:20:20 GMT -5
yeah i was thinking about the same...about bands that has their own style from the beginning but then later on they change their style to what I usually don't like. Let's say Band X had their few first albums heavy rock with balls but then go more pop later on...they don't change style because they want to, they change style because mainstream wants to. So that's how I lose respect to the band and when you don't have much respect for a band, you don't really support their new stuff.
But discussions like this is hard to have since every band is different and has a different case and it's hard to generalize since there are so many exceptions. So the example above was refered to certain bands, not all bands.
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Post by Vajukki on Jan 23, 2007 10:21:41 GMT -5
One of those certain bands is Stam1na, which didn't play metal and sang england. They broke in when they changed to metal and to singing finnish, after forerunners such as Kotiteollisuus and Mokoma had became popular. I actually like Stam1na a lot, and their metal is different as the singer doesn't scream much at all. And the message is criticizing, and criticizes christianity in somekind of same way as Slayer did with Jesus Saves. Don't get me all wrong, I take part in my congregation's recreational activities but I still love the critizism. But still I don't respect the badn as much as I could as they changed their style only because mainstream was going the same way..
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Post by Alien on Jan 23, 2007 16:02:13 GMT -5
Personally I don't care what's popular, but there seems to be a correlation between popularity and quality in some genres. Metal is inherently unaccessible, and most metal bands that are 'popular' in any real sense of the word is almost certianly some worthless watered down version (like "Nu-metal"). Even the once mighty Slayer does that crap nowdays.
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